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iCandy Apple Review from Best Pram

Wed, May 21, 2008

Travel System Reviews

iCandy Apple Travel System

iCandy Apple Travel System

I’d love to be able to say the iCandy Apple was a good buy for our baby, but it’s definitely been a love/hate relationship. Almost a year since we started using it, it’s fair to say we’re both very much in love with it again, but we’ve had a number of problems along the way - some downright dangerous and others just disappointing - which, considering its cost,  has sadly taken some of the shine of the rose-tinted specs.

The iCandy Apple is a stunning pushchair. Obviously, taste is very much a matter of personal opinion, but I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been stopped in the street by someone wanting to know what make it is.  But I’d be lying if I said there weren’t any teething issues with it. Speaking to a seller at the Baby Show last week, it would seem that iCandy are aware of the issues I’ll go on to discuss and claim that these have now been resolved by the introduction of a new chassis. In which case, you’d do well to bear this point in mind when reading about the problems we experienced and reserve judgement until you can test-drive it for yourself. But the fact remains that for those of us who bought our pushchairs in the early days and thus became rather expensive guinea pigs, the road has been a little more fraught with problems.

To start at the beginning, it was love at first sight when we saw it. My husband, especially, was completely bowled over by the sleek, masculine and understated design, and felt sure it ticked every single one of our boxes.  Forward and rear-facing? Yes! Handle-height adjustable? Yes! Maxi cosi cabriofix car seat compatible? Yes! The list went on and on, and after a couple of test-drives around the shop, we were both completely sold.

At the time we bought it - April 2007 - it was often compared to the extremely popular Bugaboo Chameleon, probably because they’re not too dissimilar in looks and both were very different from the run of the mill pushchairs around at the time and therefore seemed somewhat more exclusive, though with a never-ending parade of brightly coloured Bugaboos jostling for position on every high street in the country right now, I’m not sure this is the case any more! 

In retrospect and joking aside, maybe this is a crucial point. With new pushchairs, you have to take a leap of faith that they’ll stand the test of time. No-one’s been there before you using it for any real length of time, so user reviews like this one are extremely hard to find. The Bugaboo, it would seem, has more than earned its reputation as one of the most popular pushchairs of all time. The majority of people who’ve been using them with what was a baby and is now a toddler, are still shouting from the roof tops about how much they love their bugs.  What better advert could there be?

At the time, however, with the Apple pram being new, different and - at £399 for the pushchair and carrycot  combination - coming in at around £200 cheaper than the Bugaboo Chameleon, there wasn’t much we didn’t love about this beautiful new pushchair design.  We had NO doubts whatsoever as we handed over our hard earned cash, which, together with £50 for the footmuff,  oh, and don’t forget £30 for the matching changing bag, gave us one whole pound change out of £480.  Ker-ching!

Assembling the Travel System

The first decision you have to make when you get your pram out of the box is whether you want it to be in 3-wheel mode like a jogger, or 4-wheel mode like a traditional pram/travel system. This is not as simple as you might imagine, as the pushchair can only ever be one or the other, and switching between the two involves completely removing and replacing the wheels. With tools!  Not something you can do on a whim while doing your weekly shop.

Given that this pram would be carrying the most precious cargo of all - our soon to be born Boo - we opted for substance over style and plumped initially for the 4-wheel option. It just felt like it would be sturdier.  At this point, I’ll admit to knowing nothing about the mechanics of putting the iCandy together. One look at the disassembled wheels lying forlornly next to the instructions’ booklet brought me out in a cold sweat,  so husband Paul was summoned with a lofty wave in the general direction of the heap of pram parts and told to ’sort it’. As I was 7 months pregnant at the time, with a bump that looked like I was smuggling not one but several basketballs, he bit back whatever retort he might otherwise have thrown at me, and 30 minutes later (after much swearing!) summoned me back with a smug ‘ta-dah’ to show me our beautiful, assembled pram. Wow!

What did you love about the iCandy Apple Travel System?

As we’d bought the full travel system, including carrycot, this is what we used first, and it’s a fabulous, practical, considered design. We literally can’t fault it.  The big, air-filled tyres and all round suspension ensured the smoothest of rides, no matter what the terrain, and Boo always looked comfortable and cosy while out and about. Boo was a summer baby, and we did worry about the combination of an all- black carrycot with blazing summer heat, but it’s so roomy that air was able to circulate freely and he never got overly hot and bothered. The carrycot is lovely and high compared to its competitors, meaning you’re really close to baby while pushing it out and about, or stopping for coffee somewhere, and we especially loved the handy flip-down bar underneath the carrycot which attached to the front of the shopping basket, making it sturdier and safer still. Some travel systems we tried, including the Bugaboo, seemed to bounce around quite alarmingly in carrycot mode, so having this additional stabilising device on the Apple was a real bonus.

We used the carrycot for 5/6 months and got every penny of our money’s worth out of it, especially by buying an additional, vented mattress and using it as a moses basket too.  With the apron cover on, and the hood in the upright position, the carrycot shields out the vast majority of outside light and noise, and Boo would happily spend all evening asleep in our lounge, before being carried upstairs, still sound asleep, to our bedroom for the night. The carrycot hood has a handy gap at the top, so you can hold the foam covered  handle and carry it quite safely. If truth be told, Boo has never slept quite so well since (sob!).

iCandy apple travel system

The compatibility with the maxi cosi cabrio car seat (with the use of car seat adaptors that come with the carrycot) is also not a feature to be sniffed at. The ability to leave baby relatively undisturbed while you pop the car seat on and off the chassis and in and out of the car while you run errands, nip to the shops, or visit friends, was one of our best-loved and most-used features of the pram. Boo’s in the next stage car seat now, but we got over 8 months use out of it, often up to 3 or 4 times a week (only for very short periods at a time), and I’ve really missed being able to use it.

I also love the shopping basket on the Apple, which handles pretty much everything I can throw at it (or stuff under it!) and the height adjustable handle - operated by simply squeezing the grey button on the handle and pulling/pushing it to your preferred height - has had an untold amount of stick (as Paul and I both prefer different heights) but still works like a dream.

iCandy Apple Travel System

In 3-wheel pushchair mode, I loved that I could keep Boo rear-facing and smile at him while he slowly got used to the sights and sounds of the world around him. Then, a few months down the line (when he suddenly became Mr Independent and fed up of looking at his Mum’s ugly mug) change it to forward-facing in a matter of seconds.

The pushchair seat has plenty of room to accommodate a growing child (though the harness does seem disproportianately big even on the smallest setting!), and I feel sure we’ll get our 2-3 years worth of use out of it.  Which leads me on to another of its greatest selling points…

What about the iCandy Pear?

iCandy Pear

An additional selling feature for anyone considering buying the iCandy Apple at the same time as ourselves,  was the eagerly awaited release of a ‘convertor’ kit which would somehow turn it into a double pram/pushchair. This idea is now a reality and the iCandy Pear multi-mode system, boasting 20 different combinations, is available to buy, with owners of the original Apple system able to ‘upgrade’ their system by paying £249 for a ‘pip’ converter. As this is something we’ve neither bought, nor road-tested, I won’t review the iCandy Pear here, suffice to say this was, and is, a massive selling point of the Apple for anyone with plans to extend their family in the future.

What are the downsides?

Ok, this is where the review gets tricky, as I’m conscious that iCandy have developed a new chassis to fix a lot of these issues.  However, in the interests of complete honesty, I’ll start with the biggie and tell you I had a simply terrifying experience pushing Boo on our narrow and very traffic-heavy high street one day when, without warning, the front wheels jammed,  and the forward motion of me pushing behind it meant I quite literally rammed it into the road.  I don’t need to over-egg this particular pudding. I’m sure you can all imagine how upset I was about the what ifs, and how angry I was that it could have happened at all, though thankfully we were both fine.

My first reaction was to phone iCandyuk and tell them what had happened and ask for their advice. At this point, their customer services team fell at the first hurdle by refusing point blank to even speak to me about the incident, insisting that I should speak to the place I bought it from.

So I did. And they were wonderful. A new chassis was promptly ordered and the old one taken away “for testing”. But the new chassis looked different. Where mine was plain on the side panels, the new one had ‘iCandy’ printed along the side. 

I’ve subsequently discovered, speaking to other owners in forums and real life, that I was not alone in experiencing this jamming issue - far from it, in fact - and the new iCandy-branded chassis was released to fix it. With this in mind, I’m very disappointed that previous customers like myself - some of whom had only been using their pram for a matter of months - weren’t proactively contacted to arrange a replacement chassis. We wouldn’t have been hard to find. iCandyuk only deal with selected retailers, and if a problem is sufficiently serious to warrant a complete redesign and recall of the old stock from retailers, then surely it’s serious enough to consider the consequences of NOT contacting customers who had bought the old design, and therefore might be affected by the locking wheels issue.

Anyway, all’s well that ends well, as our new chassis - being used in 3-wheel, pushchair mode - is fantastic. So fantastic, that we now know we actually had another problem with the old chassis, in that I found it almost impossible to fold. Whilst Paul had the strength to collapse it pretty much every time, I found myself in tears on more than one occasion with a pram that refused to fold after 10, 20, 30 attempts, day after day after day. Sadly, I’m really not exaggerating. The new chassis, on the other hand, has presented no such problems and folds like a dream, so I can only surmise the old chassis was faulty in this respect also. There is a definite knack to folding it as you push forwards towards the wheels rather than the down towards the floor. If you’re having problems, any iCandy retailer - who will be trained in how to use the system - should be able to demonstrate it for you.

Our other issues with the pram are  personal niggles really, as I’m aware all pushchair systems will have their own idiosyncrasies whilst you get to grips with using them. For example, I find the pushchair hood near impossible to extend fully without first unhooking it from the back of the pushchair, opening it out and then re-attaching it to the back of the pushchair.  Also, I sometimes wonder whether the designers think we all have three arms and not two, as altering the seat position requires you to hold in buttons on either side of the pushchair and push down or backward, depending on which direction you want to go.  If I’m on my own, I usually have to do this manoeuvre with my knee or elbow which, if nothing else, raises an amused grin from Boo!

And finally, the other main issue - not necessarily a downside, but certainly an issue you really need to take into consideration - is It’s heavy. Really heavy. I dismissed this when we were road-testing it ourselves (quite easy to do when you’re pushing it jauntily around the shop without a baby inside!), but when you add a 20+lb growing baby complete with bulging changing bag to a 15kg system, you really feel it.  For me personally, the weight is actually a plus point.  It brings to mind images of a tank in terms of safety, and I feel like I’m getting a proper workout when Boo and I head out for our daily stroll. And don’t get me wrong, the large, air-filled tyres mean - despite its weight - it’s lovely to push. But if you’re going to be using public transport a lot, or be in and out of your car (and thus needing to separate the pram from the chassis before you can collapse, lift and stow it) I’ll go out on a limb and say this pram probably isn’t for you (have a look at the much lighter iCandy Cherry instead).

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8 Comments For This Post

  1. Martina Graham Says:

    I really love my icandy apple (as does little Joe) and have just converted to a Pear for number 2 (coming very soon!) What a fantastic (BRITISH!!!) product range this is. So practical, cool-looking, and functional.

  2. Daisy Says:

    Hi, i currently have a 20mth old little girl. I am due a new addition to our family in June 09, so will have a new born and a 28mth old. Would the apple / pear be any good? Would it be worth buying the apple, and then adding the pip to it, as i am sure my older daughter will want to walk alot so i dont want baby to be comprimised by the smaller pear seat when using it as an apple?

    Any advice would be much appriciated. It is either i buy this or phil n teds, but i like the apple more as its a sturdy single buggy. Would you agree?

  3. Rebecca Gallimore Says:

    Am in the process of considering upgrading my Apple to a Pear and am so pleased to read this review. The information about the chassis is really useful; I bought my Apple in 2006 and have hated it ever since! I find it extremely difficult to manouevre round corners and as a result quite unstable. I now realise this may have something to do with the chassis problem mentioned and intend to take this up with iCandy. Despite saying I hate it, having spent a small fortune on it I feel I should investigate the Pear options.

  4. admin Says:

    @ Rebecca: Thanks for the feedback - glad you found the review useful. Definitely speak to icandy about your chassis, though I suspect you’ll be referred to the place you bought it from (they wouldn’t deal directly with me). For what it’s worth, I’ve had no problems with the new chassis - been using it for over a year now, and am throughly in love with my Apple again! In terms of the Pear, I haven’t had chance to road-test it yet, but see the link I’ll post below for Daisy which you might also find helpful.

    @ Daisy - thanks for getting in touch, please accept my sincere apologies for slow reply. I’ve been trying to organise a road test of the Pear so I can do a proper review for all Best Pram readers. I should get chance to do this in the next few weeks, but in the meantime, I’d recommend all potential Pear-purchasers have a read of the comments here from some real-life Pear owners who are far more knowledgeable in this area than myself: http://my.bounty.com/forums/post/3/1011678/1/1/1/ICandy-PEAR—Review.htm Oh, and many congratulations on the impending new arrival - wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy!

    Thanks again to you both,

    Louise

  5. aj Says:

    hi am thinking about changing my 2008 quinny buzz 3 for an icandy apple ? any advise… am i doing the right thing ?? please help ??

  6. admin Says:

    Hi aj

    Thanks for getting in touch. I’ll do my best to help you, but can you tell me a little bit more about why you’re thinking of changing your pram? What aren’t you happy with about the Quinny? What age baby/child will the Apple by used for?

    For example, just comparing a couple of items on the specifications of both, the Apple is VERY heavy, and I imagine will feel even heavier to you if you’ve been used to the Quinny. On the other hand, the Apple has a roomier seat, and the carrycot, especially, is superb (though this would only be relevant if you using the pram with a newborn). Both are compatible with a maxi cosi cabriofix car seat, and both have height adjustable handlebars (though the Apple has the highest maximum handlebar height on the market, I believe).

    If you want to give me a bit more info about what you’re looking for in your new pram, and why you aren’t happy with the Quinny, I’ll do my best to give you some pointers on what prams might suit you best - if not the Apple, I’m sure we can find something to suit you.

    Will look forward to hearing back from you,

    Louise

  7. aj Says:

    hi,
    i love my quinny buzz but its little niggles that really bug me might sound silly but they drive me mad. The shopping basket is hopeless cant get much in it considering it was an extra. Its ment to be one handed unfold but thats not the case the release catch is a two hand and one knee job. Being a 3 wheeler its good in some situations but sometimes i wish it was 4 and although it looks really simple to change it to a 4 wheeler quinny dont do a conversion kit.I have a vw golf and the quinny just fits in but it wont fit in my mothers new style corsa. My little one is 9 months. we often go to the beach and up the mountains for a walk i also go to horse shows quite often which is why the 4 wheels would be handy.

    kind regards
    aj

  8. admin Says:

    Hi again aj

    Apologies for the delay in replying. I’ve had to change my son’s nursery and get him re-settled into the new one, so all my plans have gone pear-shaped this week.

    In terms of the apple, I’m reasonably confident in thinking the Apple won’t be the best pram for you, unfortunately. On the upside in terms of your requirements, the Apple shopping basket is HUGE. It seriously handles everything I can throw at it, and in the event of needing even more storage, also copes with me hanging a stuffed-to-bursting changing bag over the handle too, with no problems at all.

    The unfold on the Apple is quite simple once you’ve got the knack, but certainly isn’t one-handed. In terms of the folding it down, it’s quite easy in pushchair mode (can be folded with seat/chassis together in forward-facing position) but for the carrycot or rear-facing pushchair mode, you need to first separate it from the chassis before you can fold, and then re-slot into place once unfolded. Quite a task when you’ve got baby and shopping to put in the car in the rain!

    The four-wheel mode on the Apple IS great for carrycot mode, but I actually find the 3-wheel option easier to push in pushchair mode.

    In terms of the size, the folded apple has a much bigger footprint than the quinny buzz, never mind the weight issue. It IS possible to fit into very small boots, but usually by stowing the chassis and seat unit separately, which raises the above issues of practicality.

    In terms of the beach, I’m reliably informed that the Bugaboo Cameleon is the best performer on sand due to the ability to switch the direction of the handle and pull rather than push. My Apple struggles when I try to push over gravel at our local nature reserve, and I can only imagine it ever coping on the beach due to sheer brute force and will, rather than inherent suitability.

    Honestly? I really can’t see it ticking all of your boxes, which is a shame as I know what it’s like to fall in love with a pram. For the requirements you’ve listed (not for a newborn, bigger shopping basket, fits into small boot, beach/mountain/long walks, easy fold/unfold) I’d take a closer look at the following:

    Bugaboo cameleon or Bee ranges (the fold/unfold takes some practice but is simple when you know how),
    Mountain buggy range (3-wheels, but so wonderful to push), Micralite toro or fastfold (really easy fold/unfold and great shopping basket),
    Baby Jogger City Series (easiest fold/unfold I’ve ever tried, and a cheaper alternative than the Mountain buggy)
    And if you ever feel you might need a pram that can convert to a double, then look at the Phil and Ted’s also.

    I know a lot of these are 3-wheels and not 4, but if you test-drive them, I think you’ll find the ease of pushing a worthwhile compromise.

    Anyway, I hope this is helpful? If any other readers want to pitch in with their thoughts for aj, please feel free to add your comments.

    Wishing you lots of luck in your search - do let me know how you get on,

    Louise

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